Wednesday, January 12, 2011

About Columbia Law School and Employment

In case you've missed it, Columbia Law School has been rather vigorous in their attempts to correct the impression made by the recent New York Times article that an indebted student featured in the Times' expose graduated from Columbia Law. A good summation of the situation can be garnered by checking out the recent posts at First Tier Toilet, whom the Law School has repeatedly contacted regarding the error and on which the former student has allegedly posted in an attempt to clear the matter up.

Columbia is, of course, correct, and they're entitled to their correction. The student, it appears, was never an enrolled student in Columbia Law, and he did not graduate from there as the article implied.

But by no means does clean Columbia from the article's scope. Consider the following:
Now, I would hope readers of this blog are sharp enough to figure out that something here smells repulsively of bullshit. And no matter which part is bullshit, somehow it all comes back to Columbia School of Law.

The grand point here is that even if Columbia wants to cry foul over the bruising indignity of having a Columbia M.A. in International Law / Florida J.D. graduate confused with a Columbia J.D., Columbia is playing the numbers shell-game as much as anyone else.

No one has a 98-100% response rate on voluntary surveys sent to 300-400 people. Temporary fellowships are not employment, and they wouldn't be necessary if 98% could actually find "legal field" employment. "Within nine months" is not "immediately," and I imagine few of Columbia's lower-tier graduates had the pleasure of "choosing" the firm they practiced at.

I'm not going to sit here and say that Columbia is not a good school. On the contrary, it has an excellent placement record and is probably worth the expenditure for a student going in to law school fully-informed; for a student whose goal is to work in the Manhattan skyscrapers, there might not be a better option than going to Columbia provided he or she can gain admission and put up with the people there. It's one of maybe 20 or so schools I'd actually consider paying full tuition at.

But let's not pretend schools like Columbia are exempt from the "creative accounting" explained in the New York Times article. Whether a fourth tier for-profit counts Arby's employees as "employed" or a certain school concocts some fellowship to boost employment and stay ahead of a NYU and Penn in the rankings, it's manipulation, it's unfair to consumers, and it's ethically abhorrent, no matter what the ABA finds permissible.

2 comments:

  1. J-Dog,

    Columbia University apparently did not have any qualms about throwing Jason Bohn under the bus, in order to salvage the school's reputation. Privacy laws? Those can't get in the way when a news reporter makes such an "egregious" error.

    As someone who has been interviewed by the press before, I can tell you honest mistakes are made frequently. Not knowing David Segal personally, I highly doubt this NYT reporter wanted to harm CLS. The university and the law school are considered THE top in New York City. It is located in Harlem, next to some lovely churches. Driving by the university on a sunny day, one can see the picturesque campus.

    No NYT reporter would go out to slam Columbia. Especially since the school could investigate and correct any possible false claims/errors. No reporter (or basically any judge, teacher, employee) likes having someone else correct his work.

    Lastly, the school seems to forget (for $ome rea$on) that Bohn incurred the BULK of his non-dischargeable debt while attending Columbia University. By the way, the University of Florida College of Law is the highest-ranked law school in the state. The fact that someone has an undergrad and Master's degree from Columbia University - and a law degree from the top school in Florida - and can only find temp agency hag jobs is troubling. Furthermore, it appears that Bohn made every attempt to have Segal fix his error.

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  2. Good post, J-Dog.

    Good comment, Nando.

    Columbia has not come clean about how it reports employment and salary information of its graduates.

    Not surprisingly, their emails ceased after my latest post demanding such information.

    You see, Columbia's graduates can be thrown under the bus and turned into pariahs to protect the school's reputation; but God forbid the school inform the public on its actual Law Class of 2009 and Class of 2010 placement.

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